Friday 6 September 2013

Surly disk trucker with Alfine 11 - Components List

At the risk of appearing to be an enormous geek I have been keeping track of all the components I've put into building the Surly, partly to keep track of how much it was all costing but mainly for my OCD nature.

Its cost rather more than I intended but every item on it has been considered and chosen carefully to meet my needs - there's no way an off the shelf bike would have been exactly as I wanted so there would have been extra cost in changing and upgrading components.

So, if its of use or interest to anyone undertaking a similar build then here is my list of what, how much, and where from;



Item
Component Name
Cost
Source
Frame + Forks
Surly disk trucker 54cm
£375.00
Edinburgh cycles
Hub Gear
Alfine 11
£266.00
Back cog
Shimano alfine 23 tooth
£6.90
ebay shop
Front Hub
Shimano XT centre lock M785
£27.00
On One
Rims
Sun-Ringle Rhyno
£40.00
On One
Spokes
 -
Inc.in build costs
 -
Wheel Building
Wheelcraft
£45.00
http://www.wheelcraft.net/
Chain
KMC S1
£4.99
On One
Chain tensioner
On One Doofer
£14.99
On One
Front chainring
Shimano Alvio 32 tooth
£24.99
On One
Crank Arms
Shimano Alvio
On One
Front chainring bolts
Stronglight
£10.00
LBS
Pedals
MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals
£24.29
Wiggle
Pedal clips
MKS Half Deep Section Toe Clip with Leather
£16.19
Wiggle
Bottom Bracket
Shimano UN55 68x113mm
£15.00
On One
Crank bolts
Unbranded
£2.99
Ebay - New
Gear Shifters
Versa 11
£149.99
On One
Brake Leavers
Brakes
Avid BB7 - Road
£89.00
Rotors
Shimano LX centrelock
£8.00
On One
Seat
Brooks B17 special
£58.00
ebay shop
Seat Post
On One Twelfty 27.2mm
£10.00
ebay - second hand
Headset
FSA Orbit XL II
£19.99
On One
Handle Bars
On One Midge
£19.99
On One
Handlebar Tape
Easton cork bar tape
£8.99
Wiggle
Riser
Bontrager SSR 75mm 10 deg
 -
Had it already
Spacers
Brand X alloy spacers 5x10mm
£3.99
Chain Reaction Cycles
Tyres
Schwalbe marathon dureme double defense 26x2
£68.00
Tubes
Schwalbe 
 -
Had it already
Brake cable
Jagwire Hyper (cable kit)
£17.54
Wiggle
Mud Guards
SKS Bluemels 60mm
£22.00
Panier Frame - Rear
Tubus cargo
£55.00
Panier Frame - Front
Unbranded aluminium lowrider
£12.90
Ebay shop
Paniers - Back
Ortlieb back roller classic
£85.00
Ebay shop
Paniers - Front
Halfords 20 litre pannier pair
£19.99
Halfords
Handle bar bag
Altura 7l
£33.00
Ebay - Second hand
Odometer
Cateye strada wireless
£28.29
Ebay - Second hand
Bottle Holders

 -
Had it already

Sunday 1 September 2013

Surly disk trucker with Alfine 11.

Well its finished - it was 'finished' a while ago but now its finished again as I have made a few changes such as fat tyres, brooks saddle, MTB cranks replacing the single speed chain set I had fitted, and now front and rear racks. This should be it for a while now with little more than minor tweaks here and there. I have covered far fewer miles on this bike than I had hoped by this point (lack of time, etc), only 400 miles so far.
I am though very, very happy with this bike; the Surly frame is great to ride, the Sun Rhyno Lite rims feel indestructible and combined with the fat tyres it makes for a very comfortable ride. The tyres can go to fairly high pressure so no great loss of efficiency but I have really appreciated the large pneumatic capacity and strong wheels when I have smashed my way through some large potholes that I had somehow not seen coming. The Alfine hub I am pleased with too, although with a few issues, more on that further down....

Steel steed; Gucci Tubus rack on the back and cheap alloy rack on the front as this should see a lot less use and much lighter weights.
This is a very sturdy bike which is exactly what I wanted in a tourer but that does come with a weight penalty, the bike as you see it in these pictures weighs in at 16kg, I could have built it lighter and I could yet shave off some weight but I don't really see a great need. If I had built a lightweight tourer but I wouldn't have felt comfortable in taking it off road with heavy panniers (not so with this bike).

How phat is that front tyre? Plus headlight probe device thrusting out the front..
I really like the Alfine hub, it should require next to no maintenance, is nearly silent to operate, should last forever, and a great feature is being able to change gears without moving. I do however have a few issues with the Alfine hub, 99% of the time it works perfectly smoothly, but on occasion it has;
  1. Disconcerting clicks and skips of the gears.
  2. On a few occasions I have had the gears disconnect and give no resistance for a quarter of a turn - generally on a downwards pedal stroke thus smashing my soft bits into the saddle before carrying on as normal.
  3. One occasion of the gears seeming to skip out completely, grinding around a full turn (very unpleasant).
  4. When changing down the gears from 7th to 6th an extra push on the gear change is sometimes needed to move down the gears.
  5. It does seem to prefer lifting off slightly when changing gears - contrary to the Shimano blurb which states that unlike other and older IGH it isn't necessary with the Alfine to relax peddling when changing gear.
Fairly cheap and heavy Shimano Alvio triple MTB chainset replaces the On-One single speed, the wider spread of the MTB cranks makes for a  more stable feeling ride. Only the middle chainring remains on the chainset as I dont have a front derailleur.
 
 All this does sound like a pretty damming review of the Alfine hub, but I must stress that for most of the time the hub performs very well. I think that with a normal derailleur system I would have experienced many more crunches and crashes of gears and so my critisism at this stage stems from the facts that;
 a) Most of the time the hub works silently so any skip or slip is that much more noticeable.
 b)The gear change is generally very smooth and easy, so again, any deviation from this is noticed.
 c) Its so bloody expensive that I am very aware of every unexpected noise or skip. 

So in summary, I suppose that an IGH is still a very new thing to me and will take a bit more getting used to, unlike a derailleur system where problems can be seen and fixed, with the Alfine its all hidden away so can seem a bit like black magic.

If anyone has questions or coments about this bike I would be happy to hear them, and if any Alfine users out there have experienced any of the minor issues that I have mentioned then I would be very happy to hear how you are doing with the hub so far.

Once I have serviced the hub and then done some more mileage I will write another post to update how I am finding it. I am hoping that after its first oil change it will smooth out a little.