Friday, 6 September 2013

Surly disk trucker with Alfine 11 - Components List

At the risk of appearing to be an enormous geek I have been keeping track of all the components I've put into building the Surly, partly to keep track of how much it was all costing but mainly for my OCD nature.

Its cost rather more than I intended but every item on it has been considered and chosen carefully to meet my needs - there's no way an off the shelf bike would have been exactly as I wanted so there would have been extra cost in changing and upgrading components.

So, if its of use or interest to anyone undertaking a similar build then here is my list of what, how much, and where from;



Item
Component Name
Cost
Source
Frame + Forks
Surly disk trucker 54cm
£375.00
Edinburgh cycles
Hub Gear
Alfine 11
£266.00
Back cog
Shimano alfine 23 tooth
£6.90
ebay shop
Front Hub
Shimano XT centre lock M785
£27.00
On One
Rims
Sun-Ringle Rhyno
£40.00
On One
Spokes
 -
Inc.in build costs
 -
Wheel Building
Wheelcraft
£45.00
http://www.wheelcraft.net/
Chain
KMC S1
£4.99
On One
Chain tensioner
On One Doofer
£14.99
On One
Front chainring
Shimano Alvio 32 tooth
£24.99
On One
Crank Arms
Shimano Alvio
On One
Front chainring bolts
Stronglight
£10.00
LBS
Pedals
MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals
£24.29
Wiggle
Pedal clips
MKS Half Deep Section Toe Clip with Leather
£16.19
Wiggle
Bottom Bracket
Shimano UN55 68x113mm
£15.00
On One
Crank bolts
Unbranded
£2.99
Ebay - New
Gear Shifters
Versa 11
£149.99
On One
Brake Leavers
Brakes
Avid BB7 - Road
£89.00
Rotors
Shimano LX centrelock
£8.00
On One
Seat
Brooks B17 special
£58.00
ebay shop
Seat Post
On One Twelfty 27.2mm
£10.00
ebay - second hand
Headset
FSA Orbit XL II
£19.99
On One
Handle Bars
On One Midge
£19.99
On One
Handlebar Tape
Easton cork bar tape
£8.99
Wiggle
Riser
Bontrager SSR 75mm 10 deg
 -
Had it already
Spacers
Brand X alloy spacers 5x10mm
£3.99
Chain Reaction Cycles
Tyres
Schwalbe marathon dureme double defense 26x2
£68.00
Tubes
Schwalbe 
 -
Had it already
Brake cable
Jagwire Hyper (cable kit)
£17.54
Wiggle
Mud Guards
SKS Bluemels 60mm
£22.00
Panier Frame - Rear
Tubus cargo
£55.00
Panier Frame - Front
Unbranded aluminium lowrider
£12.90
Ebay shop
Paniers - Back
Ortlieb back roller classic
£85.00
Ebay shop
Paniers - Front
Halfords 20 litre pannier pair
£19.99
Halfords
Handle bar bag
Altura 7l
£33.00
Ebay - Second hand
Odometer
Cateye strada wireless
£28.29
Ebay - Second hand
Bottle Holders

 -
Had it already

Sunday, 1 September 2013

Surly disk trucker with Alfine 11.

Well its finished - it was 'finished' a while ago but now its finished again as I have made a few changes such as fat tyres, brooks saddle, MTB cranks replacing the single speed chain set I had fitted, and now front and rear racks. This should be it for a while now with little more than minor tweaks here and there. I have covered far fewer miles on this bike than I had hoped by this point (lack of time, etc), only 400 miles so far.
I am though very, very happy with this bike; the Surly frame is great to ride, the Sun Rhyno Lite rims feel indestructible and combined with the fat tyres it makes for a very comfortable ride. The tyres can go to fairly high pressure so no great loss of efficiency but I have really appreciated the large pneumatic capacity and strong wheels when I have smashed my way through some large potholes that I had somehow not seen coming. The Alfine hub I am pleased with too, although with a few issues, more on that further down....

Steel steed; Gucci Tubus rack on the back and cheap alloy rack on the front as this should see a lot less use and much lighter weights.
This is a very sturdy bike which is exactly what I wanted in a tourer but that does come with a weight penalty, the bike as you see it in these pictures weighs in at 16kg, I could have built it lighter and I could yet shave off some weight but I don't really see a great need. If I had built a lightweight tourer but I wouldn't have felt comfortable in taking it off road with heavy panniers (not so with this bike).

How phat is that front tyre? Plus headlight probe device thrusting out the front..
I really like the Alfine hub, it should require next to no maintenance, is nearly silent to operate, should last forever, and a great feature is being able to change gears without moving. I do however have a few issues with the Alfine hub, 99% of the time it works perfectly smoothly, but on occasion it has;
  1. Disconcerting clicks and skips of the gears.
  2. On a few occasions I have had the gears disconnect and give no resistance for a quarter of a turn - generally on a downwards pedal stroke thus smashing my soft bits into the saddle before carrying on as normal.
  3. One occasion of the gears seeming to skip out completely, grinding around a full turn (very unpleasant).
  4. When changing down the gears from 7th to 6th an extra push on the gear change is sometimes needed to move down the gears.
  5. It does seem to prefer lifting off slightly when changing gears - contrary to the Shimano blurb which states that unlike other and older IGH it isn't necessary with the Alfine to relax peddling when changing gear.
Fairly cheap and heavy Shimano Alvio triple MTB chainset replaces the On-One single speed, the wider spread of the MTB cranks makes for a  more stable feeling ride. Only the middle chainring remains on the chainset as I dont have a front derailleur.
 
 All this does sound like a pretty damming review of the Alfine hub, but I must stress that for most of the time the hub performs very well. I think that with a normal derailleur system I would have experienced many more crunches and crashes of gears and so my critisism at this stage stems from the facts that;
 a) Most of the time the hub works silently so any skip or slip is that much more noticeable.
 b)The gear change is generally very smooth and easy, so again, any deviation from this is noticed.
 c) Its so bloody expensive that I am very aware of every unexpected noise or skip. 

So in summary, I suppose that an IGH is still a very new thing to me and will take a bit more getting used to, unlike a derailleur system where problems can be seen and fixed, with the Alfine its all hidden away so can seem a bit like black magic.

If anyone has questions or coments about this bike I would be happy to hear them, and if any Alfine users out there have experienced any of the minor issues that I have mentioned then I would be very happy to hear how you are doing with the hub so far.

Once I have serviced the hub and then done some more mileage I will write another post to update how I am finding it. I am hoping that after its first oil change it will smooth out a little.

Sunday, 9 December 2012

Dont buy a FIAT (Fix It Again Tony)





Headlight bulb replacement on my Fiat Stilo Multiwaggon....


....no really! Headlight bulb replacement involves removing the wheel, wheel arch cowling, dropping the bumper and even loosening a bolt in the front wing. In total 18 bolts and screws in four different sizes, and all to put in a single new bulb. Now I generally like tinkering with cars and if this was in some sunny plaza in Rome outside a cafe with an espresso then it would have been an enjoyable experience, on a winters day in Aberdeen however its was a different matter.

Ciao!

Thursday, 23 August 2012

Surly LHT completed!




I'll try for a more artistic picture soon but for now here are a few shots of the newly completed trucker with its Alfine 11 hub. As with any build its not actually completed; I'm considering a Brooks B17 saddle, I still need a front rack, and I may swap out the BB for a longer one to give the cranks a bit more clearance past the chain stays.



It is now a functional bike though so I am starting to put a few miles on it and see how it performs. It is heavy (mainly in the rear) so compared with my old road bike commuter it feels a bit sluggish to accelerate but it is very comfy, very smooth, and flowing to ride, with that extra weight comes a secure feeling that its a pretty indestructible machine which can tackle rough trails and carry plenty of weight if required.


Any comments gratefully received and if you have any questions I'd be happy to try and answer them. I hope this blog of the build has proved useful to someone.





More blogs will follow on performance and any problems I may encounter. I'm interested to see how the Alfine hub beds in and just how good it proves to be - I have high hopes and equally high expectations.

Wednesday, 25 July 2012

This trucker needs some wheels.


I have my tin opener – pass me a can of worms from the top shelf. Yep, I am about to discuss wheels; what size, what rim, what spoke, what hub, wtf…

 Tons of clearance with the Surly LHT fork

The wheels have probably been the hardest part of the build process, mainly deciding on size; 26 inch or 700c? Not a simple decision as this has an impact on what frame I went for. I considered a Dawes Ultra Galaxy, a Planet X Kaffenback, an On One Croix De Fer, a Genesis Day One. All brands and bikes I liked the look of a lot but that would mean I went down the 700c route of wheels. But what happens if I head out on a far flung tour to places which don’t support this size of wheel?
I made the decision early on that I wanted to build a solid simple bike with components which could be repaired or replaced wherever I happened to find myself (more on my decision to use an Alfine 11 later). Using this basis I opted for 26 inch wheels; I would hope never to break a wheel on an expedition, probably not even destroy a tyre, but inner tubes I can easily see me needing to pick up. So if a place doesn’t stock 700c wheels then they are unlikely to stock 700c inner tubes. This is fairly fundamental and so made my choice to go for 26 inch wheels somewhat easier – I should now be able to replace inner tubes, tyres, and even entire wheels wherever I go.

What rims? Not as hard a choice as you might think, a few names cropped up again and again, mainly Mavic and Sun Rhyno. Sun Rhyno had great reviews as a fairly heavy but very solid and reliable touring rim which can handle rough trails and tarmac alike. Mavic 719 and 721 also had great reviews – there was some forums mentioning cracking being a problem in the Mavics but all these conversations were from way back in 2006 with this problem little mentioned in later forums so it would seem that Mavic have solved the issue. Mavics are a bit easier to get here in the UK and with lots of choice so I decided on these and shopped around for something in the width range I wanted and with good touring reputation, my shopping arount took me to the On One website however, where they happened to have a pair of Sun Rhyno Lite rims for £20 each – bargain! All thoughts of Mavic abandoned I bought the Suns.

 My Sun Rhyno Lite rims newly built by Big Al (keep reading)...

What hub? Well I had been toying with the idea of an internal gear hub for a while since a mate told me about his Rohloff Speedhub. I wasn’t about to spend that kind of cash on a hub but with Shimanos Alfine 11 there was another option. Choosing the Alfine may appear to go against my desire for a simple bike which is easy to maintain in the field but there are pros and cons to the internal gear setup and to derailiurs  alike. 

Alfine 11 - looks good, hope it does the job

The advantages for the Alfine are that it should require almost no maintenance in the field, it has a longer life than a derailleur drive chain, and I can use a single speed chain which will last longer and wear less. The disadvantages are fairly fundamental, if anything goes wrong with the hub then it can’t really be repaired in the field, but if this does happen then my thinking is I can pick up a new rear wheel, convert back to a simple derailleur setup and continue on my way. If this was a very long trip then possibly send the hub home for repair and have it mailed back out to me later on. The pros seem to outweigh the cons for my requirements and the hub already has a good reputation for reliability and longevity form people who have put a lot of mileage through them.


As for the front hub I returned to my desire for simple and maintainable so went for Shimano XT with cup and cone bearings – worldwide parts and repair-ability.


The Alfine only comes with a centrelock option for disk brakes so I also went for a centre lock front hub. Not my first choice due to availability of spares but this design seems to be taking off, it has its advantages, and if I really want to I can get an adapter to take bolt on rotors so it wasn’t a great dilemma.

With all the components for the wheels bought I had to think about building, I wasn’t going to try this myself and I wanted a good job doing so I was willing to spend the cash on a good wheelbuilder. I’m based in Aberdeen where we seem to have fairly few bike shops, Alpine Bikes and Edinburgh Cycles being the big two. I was certainly not going to let Alpine Bikes near my wheels – sorry Alpine but when I dropped off my MTB wheel for repair the work done was shoddy at best (cassette not tightened, new spokes not done up, wheel not balanced), so I wont be using you guys again. Edinburgh Bikes on the other hand have been great, knowledgeable staff and very very helpful, I ordered the Surly frame through them and they have been great – even fitting the headset for free. So Edinburgh were my choice of wheelbuilders until I was told in hushed tones about ‘Big Al’ just out of Glasgow, a wheelbuilder of some repute, such repute in fact that he seems to have taken on mystical properties amongst his following and is seen as something of a wheelbuilding deity – this was my man. I could feel it. Luckily I was passing through Glasgow that week so I called in and dropped off all the bits, he even did a full rebuild on my MTB wheel (so badly done by Alpine bikes) while I waited. I was supplied with coffee thick enough to stand your spoon up in (he seems to drink a lot of this) and supplied with a cadburys chocolate roll in case I was hungry! As he rebuilt the MTB wheel there was constant bike based chat and lots of information to help me with my project, while I looked around his workshop – wheels are piled so high in every corner that some of the lower ones must be antiques if they haven’t already been compressed into coal from the growing weight of new wheels being added above, he then decided that the bearings were a little rough on my wheel and so the hub got a full strip down and service too.
  
Rear dropouts of the Disk Trucker

Given the chaotic nature of his workshop I was fully expecting it to be a couple of weeks before my wheels were ready but within just two days Al called to say ‘laddie, yer wheels er reddy’, when I arrived he went on to explain that I had double butted on the rear with tandem spokes on one side to compensate for the strain of the disk brake, single butted on the front…(beyond this I got lost in the technicalities of his art), apparently I’d had a choice of silver or black spokes – as long as I chose silver, he doesn’t use black ones as for reasons unknown these seem to break more often than silver ones. A theory was postulated in the ensuing conversation about the black ones being baked after the coating was applied and in doing so annealing the metal thus making it more brittle – a sound theory which I am happy to accept – the silver spokes look the part and my new wheels look great. Al even offers a 200 mile tune up to his wheels to get them back in perfect true once they have bedded in.
Thanks Big Al – brilliant service, great banter, and more coffee than you can shake a mug at. Check out his store here; http://www.wheelcraft.net/